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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-12438</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Darren: I had the same idea, the bonus would be the huge amount of extra storage space for food, but the downside is that having two would take up much more room.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-12435</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@David: We have our two chest freezers side by side - one running as a fridge, and one as a freezer. It&#039;s a lot more economical than the upright equivalent! Sorry, I don&#039;t have the knowledge to recommend any particular brands or models. I&#039;m a fan of buying second-hand, so I&#039;m always limited in choice to what is currently available and I just research those online to come to a decision.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: We have our two chest freezers side by side &#8211; one running as a fridge, and one as a freezer. It&#8217;s a lot more economical than the upright equivalent! Sorry, I don&#8217;t have the knowledge to recommend any particular brands or models. I&#8217;m a fan of buying second-hand, so I&#8217;m always limited in choice to what is currently available and I just research those online to come to a decision.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m very interested in this idea as im currently moving out of home and looking at purchasing a fridge. Since a fridge is a hefty investment, I&#039;d like to think this solution would be the best.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My main concern is, what do most people use for a freezer then? Do they go without or do they run a second unit for freezing?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, I&#039;ve been looking at Haier chest freezers, but would you suggest anything in particular to purchase?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very interested in this idea as im currently moving out of home and looking at purchasing a fridge. Since a fridge is a hefty investment, I&#8217;d like to think this solution would be the best.</p>

<p>My main concern is, what do most people use for a freezer then? Do they go without or do they run a second unit for freezing?</p>

<p>Also, I&#8217;ve been looking at Haier chest freezers, but would you suggest anything in particular to purchase?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-11027</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Trillium Hill: There are two general approaches people use. One is to replace the existing thermostat with one that works at a higher temperature range (i.e. replace the freezer thermostat with a fridge thermostat). The other is to do what I did, and use a digital temperature controller with its own thermostat to simply turn the mains power on and off.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For your project, I&#039;d try to find a waterproof tub or box that fits inside your chest freezer rather than sealing the freezer itself with caulking. The caulking may eventually leak. If you use the digital temperature controller method, you could put its temperature probe in your water bath and then set it to maintain a temperature just above freezing. That should work nicely.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I like your web site by the way (assuming it&#039;s trilliumhillfarm.com, and not trilliumhill.com!). Vermont looks beautiful, and I&#039;d like to get over there someday. My neighbour&#039;s daughter and her family live on a farm somewhere in Vermont too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trillium Hill: There are two general approaches people use. One is to replace the existing thermostat with one that works at a higher temperature range (i.e. replace the freezer thermostat with a fridge thermostat). The other is to do what I did, and use a digital temperature controller with its own thermostat to simply turn the mains power on and off.</p>

<p>For your project, I&#8217;d try to find a waterproof tub or box that fits inside your chest freezer rather than sealing the freezer itself with caulking. The caulking may eventually leak. If you use the digital temperature controller method, you could put its temperature probe in your water bath and then set it to maintain a temperature just above freezing. That should work nicely.</p>

<p>I like your web site by the way (assuming it&#8217;s trilliumhillfarm.com, and not trilliumhill.com!). Vermont looks beautiful, and I&#8217;d like to get over there someday. My neighbour&#8217;s daughter and her family live on a farm somewhere in Vermont too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Trillium Hill</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-11013</link>
		<dc:creator>Trillium Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Darren
Thanks for posting this! I am interested in converting a chest freezer to a &quot;can cooler&quot; for cooling my milk-- I milk goats and don&#039;t have enough of them to merit a bulk tank. I know of people who have done this and love how it works. Basically it will be a freezer filled with water that is kept just over freezing level.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the process would be the same as yours except that I am going to have water in mine and will need to seal the joints with caulking. My question for you is did you cut the original thermometer out of the freezer? What was this process like?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for any thoughts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren
Thanks for posting this! I am interested in converting a chest freezer to a &#8220;can cooler&#8221; for cooling my milk&#8211; I milk goats and don&#8217;t have enough of them to merit a bulk tank. I know of people who have done this and love how it works. Basically it will be a freezer filled with water that is kept just over freezing level.</p>

<p>I think the process would be the same as yours except that I am going to have water in mine and will need to seal the joints with caulking. My question for you is did you cut the original thermometer out of the freezer? What was this process like?</p>

<p>Thanks for any thoughts.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-10473</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@yoshhash: Thanks for the link, that&#039;s really interesting. If anybody sees one of these in a store, please let us know!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yoshhash: Thanks for the link, that&#8217;s really interesting. If anybody sees one of these in a store, please let us know!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-10471</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Patrick: Thanks mate, hope it was of some use (or at least entertainment!) to you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick: Thanks mate, hope it was of some use (or at least entertainment!) to you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: yoshhash</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-10439</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshhash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://www.haieramerica.com/en/category/Home_Appliances/Freezers/Access_Plus_Dual_Zone_Freezers&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, well, it seems there is at least one actual manufacturer.  Haier apparently sells a lot of products to major retailers like Walmart and Home Depot, so it shouldn&#039;t take much to have them stock it- people just need to ask for it and buy it.  Here in Canada, they don&#039;t seem to have them, but I&#039;m going to keep making inquiries until they do.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Well, well, it seems there is at least one actual manufacturer.  Haier apparently sells a lot of products to major retailers like Walmart and Home Depot, so it shouldn&#8217;t take much to have them stock it- people just need to ask for it and buy it.  Here in Canada, they don&#8217;t seem to have them, but I&#8217;m going to keep making inquiries until they do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-10400</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mate&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have just been reading your website. Just wanted to thankyou. Throughly enjoyed the read. Some great info.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers
Patrick&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Have just been reading your website. Just wanted to thankyou. Throughly enjoyed the read. Some great info.</p>

<p>Cheers
Patrick</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Yosh Hash: I know of a few people who&#039;ve done this, I guess most of them don&#039;t have blogs or feel the need to tell everyone about it like I do :-). The big problem with chest fridges going mainstream is the amount of testing etc involved in bringing a new appliance to the Australian market. There&#039;s a lot of testing for electrical safety, standards compliance, Energy Star rating, etc that the manufacturer has to pay for before they can even sell one unit. And let&#039;s face it, these things are never going to sell as many units as an LG side-by-side with water and ice dispenser.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a pity, but then I don&#039;t think they could make them as cheap as my one anyway! It really wasn&#039;t hard to set up, and it&#039;s been working great so far.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let me know how you go!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yosh Hash: I know of a few people who&#8217;ve done this, I guess most of them don&#8217;t have blogs or feel the need to tell everyone about it like I do <img src='http://green-change.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . The big problem with chest fridges going mainstream is the amount of testing etc involved in bringing a new appliance to the Australian market. There&#8217;s a lot of testing for electrical safety, standards compliance, Energy Star rating, etc that the manufacturer has to pay for before they can even sell one unit. And let&#8217;s face it, these things are never going to sell as many units as an LG side-by-side with water and ice dispenser.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s a pity, but then I don&#8217;t think they could make them as cheap as my one anyway! It really wasn&#8217;t hard to set up, and it&#8217;s been working great so far.</p>

<p>Let me know how you go!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: yosh hash</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-8864</link>
		<dc:creator>yosh hash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for posting this, nice to finally see that at least one other human being, after Tom Chalko, has taken up the challenge to produce what the entire global refrigeration industry has failed to provide.  I intend to be the third, unless I can find a commercially made version.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am outraged that this is not made available to regular consumers.  Have I just not been looking hard enough, or is the concept of chest fridges really that rare?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this, nice to finally see that at least one other human being, after Tom Chalko, has taken up the challenge to produce what the entire global refrigeration industry has failed to provide.  I intend to be the third, unless I can find a commercially made version.</p>

<p>I am outraged that this is not made available to regular consumers.  Have I just not been looking hard enough, or is the concept of chest fridges really that rare?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-8447</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@James: To be honest, I&#039;m not sure about how well it handles an inductive load. But it is a &quot;fridgemate&quot;, designed to switch fridges, so I would have to think it can handle them OK. The Jaycar thermostat may be of a more general-purpose design and that&#039;s why it couldn&#039;t handle the job? Dunno. I did see one chest fridge conversion that added a circuit to dampen the startup spike, for use with batteries and an inverter - possibly it was the Mt Best one, but I can&#039;t recall. My FridgeMate is still working fine!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James: To be honest, I&#8217;m not sure about how well it handles an inductive load. But it is a &#8220;fridgemate&#8221;, designed to switch fridges, so I would have to think it can handle them OK. The Jaycar thermostat may be of a more general-purpose design and that&#8217;s why it couldn&#8217;t handle the job? Dunno. I did see one chest fridge conversion that added a circuit to dampen the startup spike, for use with batteries and an inverter &#8211; possibly it was the Mt Best one, but I can&#8217;t recall. My FridgeMate is still working fine!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James Clark</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-8431</link>
		<dc:creator>James Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Darren-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I want to try this set up stateside in a camper... I have found a vendor for the Fridgemate MkII in a 110v model, but the description says nothing about whether or not it can handle the kickback of an inductive load. Are you implementing a relay or capacitor to handle inductive load, or does the MkII have a built in capacitor?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am referencing Tom Chalko&#039;s PDF document from mtbest.net on this subject. Within said document Tom states that the Jaycar WT2300 thermostat he tried first failed after six weeks of use when the relay started suddenly producing large and bright plasma arcs in his kitchen!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am REALLY trying to avoid anything that could be a fire hazard, and so the relay contacts must be able to handle inductive load.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems a nobrainer... if yours is still working, then it must be able to handle it??&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I want to try this set up stateside in a camper&#8230; I have found a vendor for the Fridgemate MkII in a 110v model, but the description says nothing about whether or not it can handle the kickback of an inductive load. Are you implementing a relay or capacitor to handle inductive load, or does the MkII have a built in capacitor?</p>

<p>I am referencing Tom Chalko&#8217;s PDF document from mtbest.net on this subject. Within said document Tom states that the Jaycar WT2300 thermostat he tried first failed after six weeks of use when the relay started suddenly producing large and bright plasma arcs in his kitchen!!</p>

<p>I am REALLY trying to avoid anything that could be a fire hazard, and so the relay contacts must be able to handle inductive load.</p>

<p>It seems a nobrainer&#8230; if yours is still working, then it must be able to handle it??</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: All Things Eco Blog Carnival Volume Fifty Three &#124; Focus Organic.com</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-6554</link>
		<dc:creator>All Things Eco Blog Carnival Volume Fifty Three &#124; Focus Organic.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Collins presents My Chest Fridge Conversion (&quot;Converting a chest freezer into a super-efficient fridge that uses 1/10th the electricity of the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-6170</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 12:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Jason: It was intentional - the parents go through the wine because of the kids :-). A decent amount of home-brewed ginger beer seems to be consumed, too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason: It was intentional &#8211; the parents go through the wine because of the kids <img src='http://green-change.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . A decent amount of home-brewed ginger beer seems to be consumed, too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://green-change.com/2009/05/23/chest-fridge-conversion/#comment-6169</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 11:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To quote from the text:
&quot;With three young kids in the house, we go through a lot of ... wine.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I got to ask, is it the kids who go through the wine, or the parents because of the kids? ;)&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Note that the ... signifies the removal of unnecessary text for the purpose of a joke.&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote from the text:
&#8220;With three young kids in the house, we go through a lot of &#8230; wine.&#8221;</p>

<p>So I got to ask, is it the kids who go through the wine, or the parents because of the kids? <img src='http://green-change.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

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<li>Note that the &#8230; signifies the removal of unnecessary text for the purpose of a joke.</li>
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