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  1. Hi Darren,

    Wow, fantastic to see you are enjoying so many mushies! We’ve been talking about picking up some mushroom compost and growing mushies from it for a while but haven’t got around to it yet. Could you let us know the address of the place you got the mushroom compost from and the opening times or contact number?

    Good idea about mixing the mushie compost in with your general compost before use. We haven’t found it the best to add straight to the garden either. We once put a fair bit of straight mushie compost in our worm farm and killed all the worms! Ooops!

    Cheers and enjoy your mushies!

    Ally and Rich
    http://www.happyearth.com.au

  2. Wow. I had no idea that would work! We have a place that sells mushroom compost near us, but they call it “spent mushroom substrate,” so I always had this idea that it was somewhat depleted of nutrients. But clearly you’ve got a good thing going there. I’m going to have to check into this possibility in our area. Thanks for this tip!

    • The place I get the mushroom compost from sells it still in the growing bags (you can see them in the photos). This is how you want to buy it. If it’s been tipped out into a big pile or rebagged, it probably won’t grow more mushrooms.

      They call it “spent”, but in reality it will still produce another flush or two of mushrooms. It’s just that it’s past its peak productive output, so it’s not really economic for the growers to keep it around. They’d rather get it out and put in some fresh stuff that will produce much more mushrooms. I’m getting less than a kilo of mushrooms per bag over about a month – not a very viable commercial activity!

      Anyway, if you can get some cheap it’s worth it to experiment. At worst, it can just go into the compost. Just ask the seller if they have done anything to it first. Some spray with fungicide to kill the mushrooms off (so people like me can’t keep growing them, I guess!) – you definitely don’t want to put that in your garden or compost. It’ll kill off all your beneficial garden fungi.

  3. Donna

    Hi Darren,

    Fantastic, I don’t like mushrooms but i would like to try it to see how diffrent they taste from store bought ones. Can you email me with the address where you get them from.
    You and megan are doing so well in your sustainabliltiy challenge.
    Cheers donna.

    • Hi Donna! There’s a link a couple of comments above that will take you to a map, which also contains their phone number.

      If you go to pick some up, take a very large tub (like washing basket size), or better yet a trailer or ute. The bags have quite a bit of moisture in them, and will leak water everywhere. You don’t want them in your car! They’re quite heavy too, so take a passenger :-).

  4. I just realised that map isn’t quite accurate. The mushroom farm is a little bit north and east of the marker on the map – on Television Ave. It’s very easy to find if you just head east from the Figtree shopping center (but stay on The Avenue, don’t turn south towards the steelworks).

  5. Hi Darren. What a great idea! I had one of the Bunnings kits once and loved growing fresh mushrooms but was dissapointed with the cost so havn’t bought one since. Do you know whether you need total darkness? We have space under the house – but as the house is on piers and not closed in there would be a little bit of light. Another option is our garden shet – but that gets really hot. Cheers, Tricia

    • Hi Tricia! I’ve been enjoying your blog recently.

      Yeah, those Bunnings kits are expensive. A few people I know have bought them and not gotten a single mushroom from them! They did everything right – I think they’d just been sitting on the shelf too long. They took them back and demanded a refund.

      I’m not sure about total darkness. They do grow on the forest floor in nature, but then the commercial growers have them underground in complete darkness so maybe they do better without light. I do know that they need fairly cool temperature – about 18C is ideal.

  6. Thanks for answeing my questions Darren….Hopefully I can find somewhere under the house that is that cool and dark…Wish i had a basement! Cheers, Tricia

  7. Lisa

    What a great idea !! I just purchased some compost from a local farm so I will keep a few bags in our garage, water and see what happens.

    Lisa

  8. alan pinker

    i looking to find out more on how to grow my own muschrooms, can you pls help, i live in Crestview, fl in the panhandle,and if you have a catalog other resources would be great pls point me in the right direction. thks

    • @Alan: Have a search around the web. There seem to be lots of sites selling mushroom kits etc for the US. My only experience is with buying “spent” mushroom compost and growing more mushrooms until it really is totally spent.

  9. Hi Darren, very interesting. I would never have thought the “spent” compost had enough life and nutrients left. What is the smell like? My personal method is to clone mushrooms from the supermarket. I have cloned the oyster, enoki, and shiitake. My current project involves the cloning of the king oyster and beech mushrooms. I have sucessfully colonized cardboard with the king oyster and transferred pieces to 1/2 pint jars of substrate. On the weekend I tossed fresh beech mushrooms into bags of coffee grounds I received free from Starbucks. It turns out that Starbuck’s corporate policy is to give spent coffee grounds away for free as compost. I posted the address of my blog in the website field.

    • @Michael: They call it “spent” mushroom compost, but in reality it’s only spent from a commercial point of view. The production level has dropped off, so they get rid of it and bring in bags of new compost with higher production. I get less than a kilo of mushrooms from each bag, so it wouldn’t be worth their time to keep them around.

      Your blog and your mushroom projects look really interesting. If that bag of coffee grounds fruits, I’ll be copying that trick for sure!

    • @Michael: There may be chemicals added to the mushroom compost, but they were growing food in them so it wouldn’t be anything harmful to humans (well, not ‘officially’ harmful!). If you had concerns about it (e.g. if you want to eat organic, or planned to use the compost on an organic garden) then all you have to do is ask the mushroom grower.

    • @lovejahlive: I’ve never really done much canning or preserving, although it’s something I’d like to get into more. I’d also like to try dehydrating them, which is supposed to work well.

  10. Hi Darren,

    Very interesting. I googled and saw mushroom companies selling their mushroom compost. I had a commercial mushroom kit, and got about 20 brown mushrooms.

    I was wondering if I left a mushroom to grow big, would it spore and produce new “seedlings”?

    Cheers,

    Ann in NZ

    • @Ann Chin: Yes, if the mushroom grows big it will produce spores. However, they will not produce new “seedlings” if they just fall back onto the same growing medium, as it will already be full of mycelium. You can collect them and innoculate a new batch of growing medium, though. You can also propagate via tissue culture. A web search on “growing mushrooms” will give you lots of methods – just ignore the web sites about growing magic mushrooms!

  11. Julian

    I live in Queensland. Is there anywhere on the sunshine coast where mushroom compost can be purchased..arounf Caloundra/ Noosa/ Maroochydore..also in Toowoomba. Hoping to hear from you soon,,

    • @Julian: Sorry, I don’t live in that area so don’t personally know of local suppliers. Try looking up “mushroom farms” in the local Yellow Pages – they have 6 listed around Caloundra. I’m sure if you ring around you’ll find someone.

  12. Mieux

    Julian I had 30 large bags of mushroom compost delivered to my door yesterday for $75. I’m in Coolum and the guy delivers to most of the Sunshine Coast. His name is Horst and he advertises in the local paper but here’s his number: 54459307, 0417636510

    The mushroom compost I got from him is very good quality, better than stuff I’ve got from other suppliers over the years. I put 20 bags into the vegie gardens (past experience has been that mushrooms will even come up in the vegie gardens from the compost), a few bags into the compost bin and I have 3 bags that I’m keeping purely for the mushrooms that’ll grow in them.

  13. Mieux

    PS – love having it delivered rather than picking it up- saves my car from getting compost “juices” all over it

    • @Mieux: Thanks for supplying that info. I would definitely recommend either having it delivered or using a trailer. Compost juices (and manure juices, too, for that matter!) do not go well inside the vehicle!

  14. nez

    Hi
    I need help locating a mushroom farm company in the western area of NSW. Too far to travel otherwise. i.e. north of Dubbo. Any suggestions?

    • @nez: I’ve no idea, I’ve only been to western NSW once a long time ago. Have you tried looking it up in the Yellow Pages? Perhaps someone will read this and give you more info.

  15. Dyan

    Hi, I’ve really enjoyed all this great info. Does anyone know where I can purchase a mushroom kit in the Whitsundays in Queensland?

  16. Grubhead

    Years ago I was saving to go travelling and I lived in a caravan on the edge of sports field. During the summer the field was topped up with mushroom compost and when autumn came around the field was covered in mushrooms. I’d nip up there in the morning and harvest the mushrooms, usually about 20 or 30 a day. Mushrooms and egg on toast with fresh mushrooms and eggs from some feral chickens was a perfect way to start the day and save money! Good luck with the mushroom growing everyone 🙂

  17. Suzanne

    Hi Darren,

    I purchased a couple of bags of mushroom compost recently. I put them under the house, in the dark, but didn’t water them as they seemed very wet. Unfortunately they dried out on the top and I have now sprinkled them with water (after reading your article). Do you suggest I remove the top that dried off or do you think they will be ok? Also I note from the pictures of your bags that they are clear plastic. Mine came in bags which were white on the outside, and black on the inside. Do you think they will still produce mushrooms?
    Thanks,
    Suzanne.

    • @Suzanne: I’d suggest using a spray bottle to moisten the dirt layer on the top of the bags. Don’t remove the top layer – that’s what’s required for the fruiting body (mushrooms) to grow. I don’t think the clear vs solid plastic will make any difference. Good luck, and let me know how they go!

  18. Suzanne

    Thanks Darren,
    I am using the misting attachment on the hose morning and night, so about the same as a spray bottle I guess. How long does it take to produce mushrooms? Does this depend on the time of the year? I’ll keep in touch and let you know what happens! Cheers,
    Suzanne.

    • @Suzanne: Just be careful not to spray too much water. I liked the spray bottle, since it only moistened the surface and didn’t soak everything. Mine were already fruiting when I bought them, and they just continued to fruit. Fruiting depends on things like humidity and temperature, rather than time of year.

  19. Suzanne

    Darren,
    Thanks for your help – I’ll try the spray bottle and let you know how I go. Cheers,
    Suzanne.

  20. queen of string

    Thanks for the great article. We just found a farm that gives away its compost, sadly they tip it all into a pile :-(. Am going to let a couple of bags sit for a while anyways, cant do any harm. Looking around the place, it looks like they harvest the mycelium, grind it up and reuse it, so will look for any they missed and reuse it next time.

    • @Queen of String: You could bag up some of the compost, moisten it thoroughly (but don’t drown it!), and then top off the bag with a layer of dirt. The mycelium will still be in the compost, and with luck it might come back to life and spread through the bag again. Once it’s fully colonised, it should push mushrooms up through the soil layer. That’s the theory, anyway :-).

  21. queen of string

    Thanks for the quick response Darren. Will give that a go. This place seems to give away their compost all the time, and they appear to grow exotic mushrooms, so would be extra good to get some free! The stuff we got this time was so warm it was steaming, so not too hopeful, but as the weather dries up, we will be able to choose what we take and that might work better. Fingers crossed :-).

    • No worries. The only thing is, if the compost is truly “spent” and has no nutrients left, then the mycelium will not re-colonise. Still, it’s worth a shot.

  22. Suzanne

    Hi again Darren,
    The compost I picked up was obviously unused (not spent). When next I passed the farm there was a new sign saying “mushroom compost blocks – $1.00 ea”. I bought 5 blocks about 60cm x 40 cm x 14cm deep each, put them under the house and sprayed them and had mushrooms within the week! Super result so I’ll take the trailer and pick up some more. Do you recommend cutting them at the base of the stem or pulling them out?
    Thanks,
    Suzanne

    • @Suzanne: That’s fantastic! You can’t buy them that cheap (or fresh!) at the supermarket :-). I pull them up, but I’m really not sure if cutting would be better.

  23. Fran

    Hi, England here; just taken delivery of 8 bags of ‘spent’, just like the ones in your pic, now in shed, dampened and in the really quite dark. Thanks for all the tips on here, looking forward to seeing what is produced.

  24. sanjay

    Dear Darren,
    I am a large commercial grower of button mushrooms in India and appreciate the way you use the spent mushroom substrate after the economic viability drops.This is for three major flushes usually a period of 20 to 23 days (per bag yield for 2.5 kgs in 12 kg compost bags).Mushrooms keep on growing for over a peiod of upto 45 to 50 days after this period but the yeild is commercially unviable for is as it may only give 25% yield in double the span.
    Darren i wish to share what you do later of this spent mushroom substrate.The best usage as per your experience.

    Warm regards,
    Sanjay

    • @Sanjay: Thanks for the info – that confirms what I thought was happening with the not-quite-spent mushroom compost. After growing some more mushrooms, I use the spent substrate in my garden. I dig it into the soil if I’m preparing a garden bed, or add it to my compost heap to let it break down more. I want as much organic matter as I can possibly get my hands on for the garden – I just can’t get enough!

  25. Bianca

    Hallo Darran !

    Your articles are very interesting !
    I come from Germany and live in Adelaide.
    I always loved mushrooms and plan to get some mushroom compost now,
    since all the mushroom growing kits I tried did not work well at all.

    Can I grow them in the house in a spare room or will it smell too much ?
    I am worried about the summer heat coming soon.
    And is any time of the year good to try the mushroom compost ?

    I would appreciate your advice!
    Thank you.
    Bianca

    • @Bianca: I wouldn’t keep them inside – they smell a little musty, and need damp conditions. Under the house or in a shed/garage would be best. I expect summer is probably the worst month for growing mushrooms, as the warmth will encourage the growth of other organisms in the bags.

  26. Bianca

    Hallo Darran !

    Thank you for your advice !
    I do have no shed or space under the house.
    All the garden gets lots of sunshine.
    But I do have an old fridge with around 10 – 15 degrees.
    Do you think it could work to put the mushroom growing bag(s) in there ?

    Kind greetings from Bianca

    • @Bianca: The old fridge might work – I’d just be a little concerned about the lack of airflow. It’s probably worth trying one bag and seeing how it goes!

  27. Deb Vantholen

    I recently brought a box of Mushroom spores supposed in with the compost in the box,I have had it about a month and nothing is happening.Could you please tell me how to get results.
    Regards Deb.

    • @Deb: I’ve never had any success with store-bought mushroom boxes, and I don’t know anyone who has. I’d take it back to the shop, tell them you followed the instructions exactly and nothing happened, and insist on a refund.

  28. Andryan

    hi there, where can I find the spent mushroom compost in Perth area? Thank you

    • @Andryan: Sorry, I don’t live in that area so don’t personally know of local suppliers. Try looking up “mushroom farms” in the local Yellow Pages. I’m sure if you ring around you’ll find someone.

  29. Graham

    I use an old fridge that does not work to combat the heat during the day then open it during the night. Very successful and retains more moisture. Have collected spores and hopping to make up my own trays to cultivate.

    • @saeed: I can’t really help you if you can’t read the article above. I specifically said I’ve never met anyone who had any success with a home mushroom kit. If you followed the instructions and it didn’t work, you’re entitled to return it for a refund.

  30. dave fergusson

    Hi Darren, I bought some mushroom compost last week for my new vegie beds but have some over & would like to grow mushrooms! The compost was in a huge pile & had a scoop emptied into my trailer! I noticed that you previously said it should be in its original bags to be viable, but I have a packet of Mr Fothergills Marvellous Mushroom dry spawn grains & wonder if I should use my own compost or this spent stuff to seed with it!?

    • @Dave: You could probably leave the mushroom compost in a big pile and get some more mushrooms from it. I’m not sure about the dry spawn, as I haven’t used that before. I don’t think it would work with the spent compost – if there are any fungi-feeding nutrients left in it, the mycelium already established in it would outcompete the introduced spawn. I’d start it with new compost, but definitely read the Mr Fothergill’s instructions. You may need to use particular ingredients in your compost, and you likely need to sterilise it first to eliminate competing strains of fungi.

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