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  1. To quote from the text: “With three young kids in the house, we go through a lot of … wine.”

    So I got to ask, is it the kids who go through the wine, or the parents because of the kids? 😉

    • Note that the … signifies the removal of unnecessary text for the purpose of a joke.
    • @Jason: It was intentional – the parents go through the wine because of the kids :-). A decent amount of home-brewed ginger beer seems to be consumed, too.

  2. Hi Darren-

    I want to try this set up stateside in a camper… I have found a vendor for the Fridgemate MkII in a 110v model, but the description says nothing about whether or not it can handle the kickback of an inductive load. Are you implementing a relay or capacitor to handle inductive load, or does the MkII have a built in capacitor?

    I am referencing Tom Chalko’s PDF document from mtbest.net on this subject. Within said document Tom states that the Jaycar WT2300 thermostat he tried first failed after six weeks of use when the relay started suddenly producing large and bright plasma arcs in his kitchen!!

    I am REALLY trying to avoid anything that could be a fire hazard, and so the relay contacts must be able to handle inductive load.

    It seems a nobrainer… if yours is still working, then it must be able to handle it??

    • Darren

      @James: To be honest, I’m not sure about how well it handles an inductive load. But it is a “fridgemate”, designed to switch fridges, so I would have to think it can handle them OK. The Jaycar thermostat may be of a more general-purpose design and that’s why it couldn’t handle the job? Dunno. I did see one chest fridge conversion that added a circuit to dampen the startup spike, for use with batteries and an inverter – possibly it was the Mt Best one, but I can’t recall. My FridgeMate is still working fine!

  3. yosh hash

    Thank you for posting this, nice to finally see that at least one other human being, after Tom Chalko, has taken up the challenge to produce what the entire global refrigeration industry has failed to provide. I intend to be the third, unless I can find a commercially made version.

    I am outraged that this is not made available to regular consumers. Have I just not been looking hard enough, or is the concept of chest fridges really that rare?

    • @Yosh Hash: I know of a few people who’ve done this, I guess most of them don’t have blogs or feel the need to tell everyone about it like I do :-). The big problem with chest fridges going mainstream is the amount of testing etc involved in bringing a new appliance to the Australian market. There’s a lot of testing for electrical safety, standards compliance, Energy Star rating, etc that the manufacturer has to pay for before they can even sell one unit. And let’s face it, these things are never going to sell as many units as an LG side-by-side with water and ice dispenser.

      It’s a pity, but then I don’t think they could make them as cheap as my one anyway! It really wasn’t hard to set up, and it’s been working great so far.

      Let me know how you go!

  4. Patrick

    Hi Mate

    Have just been reading your website. Just wanted to thankyou. Throughly enjoyed the read. Some great info.

    Cheers Patrick

  5. Hi Darren Thanks for posting this! I am interested in converting a chest freezer to a “can cooler” for cooling my milk– I milk goats and don’t have enough of them to merit a bulk tank. I know of people who have done this and love how it works. Basically it will be a freezer filled with water that is kept just over freezing level.

    I think the process would be the same as yours except that I am going to have water in mine and will need to seal the joints with caulking. My question for you is did you cut the original thermometer out of the freezer? What was this process like?

    Thanks for any thoughts.

    • @Trillium Hill: There are two general approaches people use. One is to replace the existing thermostat with one that works at a higher temperature range (i.e. replace the freezer thermostat with a fridge thermostat). The other is to do what I did, and use a digital temperature controller with its own thermostat to simply turn the mains power on and off.

      For your project, I’d try to find a waterproof tub or box that fits inside your chest freezer rather than sealing the freezer itself with caulking. The caulking may eventually leak. If you use the digital temperature controller method, you could put its temperature probe in your water bath and then set it to maintain a temperature just above freezing. That should work nicely.

      I like your web site by the way (assuming it’s trilliumhillfarm.com, and not trilliumhill.com!). Vermont looks beautiful, and I’d like to get over there someday. My neighbour’s daughter and her family live on a farm somewhere in Vermont too.

  6. David

    I’m very interested in this idea as im currently moving out of home and looking at purchasing a fridge. Since a fridge is a hefty investment, I’d like to think this solution would be the best.

    My main concern is, what do most people use for a freezer then? Do they go without or do they run a second unit for freezing?

    Also, I’ve been looking at Haier chest freezers, but would you suggest anything in particular to purchase?

    • @David: We have our two chest freezers side by side – one running as a fridge, and one as a freezer. It’s a lot more economical than the upright equivalent! Sorry, I don’t have the knowledge to recommend any particular brands or models. I’m a fan of buying second-hand, so I’m always limited in choice to what is currently available and I just research those online to come to a decision.

  7. David

    @Darren: I had the same idea, the bonus would be the huge amount of extra storage space for food, but the downside is that having two would take up much more room.

  8. Dermot

    Hi Darren

    Is your freezer conversion still working? As I plan to something similar…

    Cheers

    Dermot

    • @Dermot: It was still going strong until earlier this year – I took the thermostat off it and returned it to a freezer as I needed the freezer space when I killed my pigs. Once we get through more of the meat, I’ll convert it back. It’s nice having a temporary hack like this, as it gives you flexibility.

  9. john

    Hi Darren. I am looking to convert my 200lt homemaker chest freezer into a fridge, I want to be able to brew lager at around 12 deg C, and cold condition the beer at around 3 deg C, could you tell me if the fridgemate would allow the chest fridge to reach that 12-15 deg C range, I have looked at changing just the thermostat over, but I like the idea of the fridgemate digital temp control better with the visual display. Regards John.

    • @John: Yep, I think the FridgeMate is what you need! According to the specs, it can control temperatures from -40C up to +70C, with +/- 1C accuracy. Perfect for the two different modes you want to use it in.

  10. […] Note: For safety, freshly cooked foods should be stored while hot even though this will make your refrigerator work harder. Older refrigerators use more energy and do not keep food as fresh. New refrigerators have flimsy parts and a shorter lifespan. It may not pay to invest in a old refrigerator, especially one manufactured before 1993. If you are looking to take 90% off the cost of refrigeration, buy a simple chest freezer and adjust the thermostat. […]

  11. I used a Walmart Black and Decker 5 CU FT chest freezer(the most eff.I could find) cost $163 + tax and 4 Walmart wire baskets (total $24) that fit perfectly. Don’t attach the racks with screws though this will risk puncturing the cooling tubes. Assemble them together as a rack with a few feet of thin aluminum angle (Home Depot) and leave them standing inside for easy removal to clean The controller came from Ebay (China) for $25 and is meant for inductive loads. On my middle shelf beer stock it holds a constant 2.3 C (about 37F) and consumes an average (including cooling new warm supplies) of 232 watts per day or one quarter of a normal fridge. Ambient average T. about 72F. Ran a little warmer I can achieve 125 watts per day but I like my beer really cold!

    • @Sir Sparks: You did well! Good tips with the racks. It doesn’t hurt to keep the temperature low in these fridges, since they’re so efficient and you don’t open them very often. It keeps things like milk and juice fresher for longer. I’m quite partial to an ice-cold beer myself!

  12. Here is another tip but at present only useful for Off Grid Solar people (like me). However soon Smart Metering will be coming to all of us and at that point it would be worth doing for all;

    Why should I waste my batteries on a freezer? With 8 hours a day (roughly) solar time and 16 hours too dark for solar any freezer will use power from the battery bank 2/3 of the time and only 1/3 direct from the solar panels. This causes additional power losses in battery charging and also means a shorter battery bank lifetime. I changed my freezer (another Walmart Black and Decker) so that the times are reversed ie. 1/3 power from battery bank and 2/3 direct from solar panels.

    Simply purchase a $16 Lowes (20 segment) ELECTRONIC plug in timer. I set mine for a total of 5 3/4 hours in time in the eight hour “day” and then 11 minutes every hour for the other 16 hours. Result is is; 1/3 battery power 2/3 solar direct power. Fluctuation is from -20C (about -5F) to -12C (about +10F. Which is fine for long freeze storage as the food spoiling micro organisms only start to grow again (slowly) above 9.6C ( +15F) so the food is safe. Although some people have remarked that frequent temperature fluctuation can rupture cell walls and spoil taste this is ONLY true when between 0C and 4C when undergoing frequent freeze/defrost at which point the water expands a massive 10% volume (AKA floating Icebergs)and can rupture food cell walls.

    Just remember set times to keep max temp below +15F plus some safety margin.

  13. Wendylady

    My husband is a home brewer who kegs.

    Reading your post, i know it was while ago, but I had to add that alot of home brewers do similar conversions of chest freezers in to keg fridges. Good height for kegs and taps, good insulation, cuts down on costs of running a second fridge just for the beer.

    We use Fridge mates on fridges to maintain perfect brew temp all year round. They can also then do double duty as over flow food storage during party season (xmas and we have a lot of summer birthdays in the family) by dialling it up to the correct fridge temp.

    There have been a few draw backs come to light in the home brew world of chest freezer conversions – especially with using the freezers existing thermostat and a fridge mate. The freezer compressor is designed to run at freezing level not the on/off for short bursts that occurs to maintain only fridge temps and the compressor has a much higher incidence of just giving up the ghost after a few years.

    We considered a chest freezer conversion but decided to go with an additional, but newer (more energy starts) second hand fridge for the beer and keep our chest freezer for frozen meat.

    Just something to consider when weighing up the pros/cons and costs of such a conversion. Please read up on http://www.aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/index.php forum for more info.

    Cheers.

    • @Wendylady: Thanks for adding to the discussion! Yep, I bought the FridgeMate from a home brew supplier. I read a bit in the forums about all the pros and cons, and decided to go with a cheap second-hand freezer rather than a fridge. A chest fridge (using an old freezer) uses way less energy than any second-hand (or even reasonably-priced new) fridge would.

      One drawback is, like you say, it can reduce the working life of the freezer, for a number of reasons. The energy savings and versatility seem to make up for that, though.

  14. In actual fact, for the same temperature differential (offset) a fridge or freezer will cycle LESS often when set to a higher temperature so should last longer.

    If people experience problems it is most likely due to setting too tight a temperarure differential ie. +1C off +1.5C ON. I have mine set to +1 OFF and +3.5C ON and the chest freezer only comes on about once per hour for a few minutes. The cheap mechanical freezer stat normally installed in a new freezer has these same large differential characteristics which is why it lasts longer.

    • @Sir Sparks: That makes sense. The controller I use has an adjustable hysteresis band – I think I had it set to about 2C or so, which worked well.

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